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Katz's Deli Pastrami Sandwich (The Famous NYC Deli, Made at Home)

Katz's Deli Pastrami Sandwich (The Famous NYC Deli, Made at Home)
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Prep 45 min active (7-10 days cure) Cook 8 hours (smoke + steam) Serves 10-12 sandwiches
Quick answer: To make a Katz's Deli-style pastrami sandwich at home, you have two paths. The shortcut: buy the best deli pastrami you can find (or order a Katz's whole pastrami online — they ship), put it in a covered pot over an inch of simmering water, and steam it for 2 to 3 hours until a probe slides through with zero resistance. Steam makes commercial pastrami taste dramatically better by softening the fat and loosening the grain. Slice it thick against the grain, pile 5 to 6 ounces on seeded Jewish rye, and spread yellow mustard on both slices of bread. That is it — no mayo, no Swiss, no arugula, nothing else. The full from-scratch method that captures Katz's actual flavor takes 10 days. Make a brine from 1 gallon of water, 1 cup of Diamond Crystal kosher salt, 1/2 cup of brown sugar, 1 tablespoon of Prague Powder No. 1 (pink curing salt), 2 tablespoons of black peppercorns, 1 tablespoon of coriander seeds, 6 smashed garlic cloves, 4 bay leaves, and 1 teaspoon of juniper berries. Submerge a 4- to 5-pound beef plate or navel brisket (fattier than the flat cut — ask your butcher specifically for 'plate' or 'navel') and refrigerate for 7 to 10 days, turning the brisket every 2 days. After curing, rinse well and soak in cold fresh water for 8 to 12 hours to pull out excess salt. Pat dry and coat every surface with the rub: 3 tablespoons of coarsely cracked black pepper and 1.5 tablespoons of ground coriander, mixed and pressed in firmly. Smoke the brisket at 225°F over oak or cherrywood (not hickory — too aggressive) until the internal temperature hits 165°F, about 5 to 6 hours for a 5-pound piece. Transfer to a covered roasting pan with 1 cup of water in the bottom, seal tightly with foil, and steam in a 300°F oven until a probe slides through with no resistance — usually around 200 to 203°F internal, 2 to 3 more hours. Rest wrapped in foil for 45 minutes, then slice thick against the grain. Serve on seeded rye with yellow mustard. The restaurant charges over $30 per sandwich. This recipe yields 10 to 12 sandwiches at roughly $4 each in ingredient cost.

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Katz's Deli Pastrami Sandwich (The Famous NYC Deli, Made at Home)

The famous Katz's Deli pastrami sandwich, made at home: a 7-day wet cure with pink salt, a coriander-black pepper bark, low-and-slow smoke to 165°F, then a long steam until probe-tender. Piled thick on seeded rye with yellow mustard only. The full Lower East Side method.

Advanced Prep: 45 min active (7-10 days cure) Cook: 8 hours (smoke + steam) Total: 8h 45m10-12 sandwiches servings ~$4.50/serving
Prep45 min active (7-10 days cure)
Cook8 hours (smoke + steam)
Total8h 45m
Servings
10
At home~$4.50/serving
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Restaurant~$20.25/serving
You save ~78%

The Story Behind the Recipe

The famous Katz's Deli pastrami sandwich, made at home: a 7-day wet cure with pink salt, a coriander-black pepper bark, low-and-slow smoke to 165°F, then a long steam until probe-tender. Piled thick on seeded rye with yellow mustard only. The full Lower East Side method.

Nutrition Facts

Per serving (10-12 sandwiches servings)
Calories480
Total Fat22g
Total Carbs28g
Dietary Fiber3g
Sugars3g
Protein38g
Sodium1240mg

* Estimated values based on standard recipe preparation. Actual values may vary.

Ingredients

  • For the cure brine (make 2 days before you start the cure)
  • The beef
  • For the smoke rub
  • For smoking
  • For the sandwich (per sandwich)

Instructions

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Pro tip: This recipe tastes even better the next day. The flavors need time to meld together in the fridge.
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Storage: Keeps in an airtight container in the fridge for up to 2 weeks. Freezer-friendly for up to 3 months.
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Copycat Katz’s Deli Pastrami Sandwich (The Famous NYC Deli, Made at Home)

Prep time: 45 min active (7–10 days cure) | Cook time: 8 hours (smoke + steam) | Serves: 10–12 sandwiches | Difficulty: Advanced


Why This Sandwich Is Worth Understanding

Katz’s Delicatessen has been on the corner of Houston and Ludlow in Manhattan’s Lower East Side since 1888. It survived the near-extinction of the American Jewish deli — at the peak in the 1930s, New York had roughly 1,500 Jewish delicatessens; today it has fewer than a dozen operating in the traditional style. Katz’s is the most famous one standing.

The pastrami they serve is made from scratch in-house: the brisket (specifically the fattier navel cut, not the lean flat most grocery stores sell) is wet-cured in a proprietary brine for approximately three weeks, rubbed with coriander and black pepper, smoked for several days, then boiled and steamed before each sandwich is hand-cut and piled onto rye. Every piece in the steam table at any given moment has been in process for close to a month.

You cannot replicate that exact result at home. You can replicate the flavor logic and the technique — and the result is so much better than any store-bought pastrami heated in a pan that the difference is hard to overstate.


Two Ways to Make This at Home
The ShortcutThe Full Method
Total time2–3 hours8–11 days
Hands-on work~10 minutes~45 minutes
EquipmentA pot with a lidSmoker + brining container + instant-read thermometer
Cost per sandwich~$8–12 (good deli pastrami)~$4 in ingredients
Result~90% there — the steam does most of the magicThe closest you can get at home
Best forA great sandwich tonightThe full Katz’s project

The Shortcut (Ready in 3 Hours)

Buy the best deli pastrami you can find — or order a Katz’s whole pastrami online (they ship nationally; it arrives vacuum-sealed and unsliced). Set it in a covered pot over 1 inch of simmering water and steam for 2 to 3 hours until a probe slides through with no resistance. Slice thick against the grain. Serve on seeded rye with yellow mustard.

This is not cheating. This is what deli workers do every morning with received pastrami. The steam is the work; the cure and smoke were done by someone else.

The Full Method (7–10 Days Cure + 1 Day Cook)

This is the recipe below. You cure the brisket yourself, build the bark from scratch, and smoke it. The investment is mostly passive time. The result — particularly the bark, the specific smoke depth, and the way the fat and gelatin feel in the meat — is noticeably different from steamed commercial pastrami.


What Makes Katz’s Pastrami Different

The cut: Navel or beef plate — the section that runs just below the brisket flat. It has more fat and collagen than the flat, which the long cure and steam convert entirely. Every bite has a slick, rich quality you cannot get from a lean cut.

The cure time: Three weeks at Katz’s; seven days minimum at home. Commercial pastrami uses chemical accelerants to compress the cure to 3 to 5 days. The time matters because the brine slowly reshapes the protein structure from the outside in — you can feel the difference in texture between a 5-day and a 10-day cure.

The bark: Coarsely cracked black pepper and ground coriander, applied thick. The two spices are always together in pastrami — it is the defining aroma. The coarse crack of the pepper means you get individual bursts of heat rather than a uniform background warmth.

The steam: The final step that turns a stiff, overcooked-looking hunk of smoked meat into something that yields and falls without falling apart. The connective tissue converted to gelatin during smoking re-liquefies in the steam, lubricating every muscle fiber from the inside. Never skip the steam.


The Sandwich, Assembled Correctly

Katz’s carvers slice pastrami by hand at the counter, thick — roughly 1/4 to 3/8 inch — and pile it on the scale as they go. A sandwich gets approximately 5 to 6 ounces of meat. They lay it on a wide sheet of deli paper, apply yellow mustard to both bread slices, and close the sandwich without pressing it down.

The bread is not toasted. The pickle is served alongside on the paper, not inside the sandwich. There is no lettuce, no tomato, no onion, no cheese, no Russian dressing, and no coleslaw inside the sandwich — those are all things you can order as separate items from the menu. The pastrami is the point, and adding ingredients around it dilutes the point.


Common Mistakes

Skipping the desalination soak. A brisket pulled straight from the cure brine is intensely salty — the salt content at the surface is much higher than the interior. The 8- to 12-hour cold water soak equalizes the salinity throughout the meat and brings the exterior back to an appropriate seasoning level. If you skip this step, every bite will taste aggressively salty, not seasoned.

Using thick, white smoke. Thin, clean blue smoke (barely visible at the smoker stack) deposits the flavor compounds you want. Thick, white smoke deposits acrid creosote that coats the meat in a harsh, bitter layer. Let your fire fully establish before putting the meat on, and add wood in small amounts rather than loading the firebox.

Not checking for probe-tender. Temperature is a guide; probe-tender is the test. The collagen in beef plate converts to gelatin at different rates depending on fat content, grade, and the specific connective tissue distribution in that piece. Some plateau at 198°F probe-tender; others need 205°F. Use a thermometer for the smoke step (don’t go over 165°F before steaming) and use the probe for the steam step.

Slicing with the grain. Slicing with the grain — parallel to the muscle fibers rather than perpendicular — turns even properly cooked, tender pastrami into a chewy, stringy experience. Look at the surface of the brisket after resting: you can see the direction of the fibers. Your knife should cut across them at a right angle, not alongside them.

Under-piling the sandwich. Five to six ounces is not a luxury amount — it is the correct amount for the rye bread to meat ratio that makes the sandwich work. A thin layer of pastrami on a full slice of dense rye disappears into the bread. The pastrami should tower slightly above the bread edge before the top slice goes on.


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Make It Healthier

Love Katz's Deli Pastrami Sandwich (The Famous NYC Deli, Made at Home) but want a lighter version? Try these simple swaps:

  • ✓Use brisket flat instead of beef plate — the flat is significantly leaner than the navel/plate cut, which means lower fat and lower calories per serving. The flat produces a firmer, less unctuous pastrami, but it is still excellent after the steam step. A sandwich made with flat-cut pastrami runs roughly 360 to 380 calories with the same bread and mustard.
  • ✓Reduce the sandwich portion to 4 ounces of pastrami instead of 6 — the flavor is so intense that 4 oz still makes a satisfying sandwich, especially with a larger portion of pickle on the side. The pickle (essentially zero-calorie) adds brine, crunch, and acid that make the smaller meat portion feel more complete.
  • ✓Open-face the sandwich — one slice of rye instead of two cuts the bread calories by half. This is how pastrami is sometimes served at diner-style deli restaurants as a lighter lunch format, and it works because the bread is more of a structural element than a flavor component.

Frequently Asked Questions

What cut of beef does Katz's Deli actually use for pastrami?

Katz's uses the navel cut, also called beef plate or plate brisket — the fattier, thicker section that runs just below the regular flat brisket. The navel has significantly more intramuscular fat and connective tissue than the flat, which is exactly what the long cure and steam process is designed to convert: connective tissue turns to gelatin, fat softens and bastes the surrounding meat, and the result is the moist, yielding, richly flavored pastrami that defines the Katz's sandwich. The flat cut — the lean, rectangular piece most grocery stores sell — can be used in a home recipe and produces a good pastrami, but it will not have the same unctuousness. If you want to get close to the real thing, call a butcher and ask specifically for 'beef plate' or 'navel cut.' Whole Foods butcher counters often carry it; specialty Jewish or kosher butchers almost always stock it. Expect to pay $5 to $8 per pound.

What is Prague Powder No. 1 and is it safe to use at home?

Prague Powder No. 1 (also called pink curing salt, InstaCure No. 1, or Cure No. 1) is a mixture of table salt and sodium nitrite — typically 93.75% salt and 6.25% sodium nitrite. It is pink-dyed to distinguish it visually from regular salt and prevent accidental misuse. Sodium nitrite serves two essential functions in cured meats: it prevents the growth of Clostridium botulinum (the bacterium that produces botulinum toxin, one of the most dangerous substances on earth), and it chemically reacts with the meat's myoglobin to produce the characteristic pink color of pastrami and corned beef. Without pink curing salt, you can still make a flavorful, seasoned brisket — but it will be gray, not pink, and it will not be safe to cure for more than 3 to 4 days in the refrigerator. Prague Powder No. 1 is widely available online (Amazon, The Sausage Maker, Walton's) and at specialty butcher supply stores. Use it at precisely the concentration in this recipe — the ratio matters for food safety. Do not substitute Prague Powder No. 2, which contains sodium nitrate and is for long-cure, no-cook products like hard salami; it is not appropriate for a cooked pastrami.

Why does steaming make pastrami taste so much better than just slicing it cold?

Three things happen during steaming that do not happen when you slice pastrami cold. First, the intramuscular fat, which is solid when cold, melts and lubricates the muscle fibers from the inside — you can feel this as the difference between pastrami that feels almost dry when you press it and pastrami that yields with a gentle, almost juicy resistance. Second, the collagen in the connective tissue, which was converted to gelatin during the original cooking process, re-liquefies when reheated — it coats every fiber with a slick, savory richness that tastes like beefy gelatin rather than dry protein. Third, the smoke and spice bark on the exterior softens slightly and its aromatics bloom again from the heat, so the pastrami smells and tastes freshly cooked rather than refrigerated. Katz's keeps their pastrami in large steamers at all times — every sandwich is pulled from live steam and sliced to order. Two to three hours of steaming at home produces a result noticeably superior to simply heating the pastrami in a pan or microwave.

Why is the sandwich yellow mustard only — no other condiments?

Katz's has served pastrami on rye with yellow mustard since its founding in 1888 — the combination predates most condiments that exist today. Yellow mustard's acidity cuts through the fat of the pastrami; its mild, tangy flavor does not compete with the smoke, salt, and coriander of the meat; and its bright yellow presence on a Jewish deli counter is a cultural marker as specific as the deli itself. Adding mayonnaise makes the sandwich richer and heavier in a way that works against pastrami's intensity. Swiss cheese is a common request that Katz's tolerates but does not endorse — dairy and highly seasoned cured beef fight each other. The classic deli wisdom is that the pastrami should be the entire point of the sandwich, not a filling surrounded by competing flavors. If you want to add mustard variety, deli-style brown mustard (Gulden's, or a whole-grain deli mustard) is the acceptable departure — but the yellow mustard baseline is what the restaurant serves.

Can I skip the smoking step and just cure and steam the brisket?

Yes, and the result is essentially corned beef — which is also excellent, but structurally different. The smoke step does three things: it desiccates the exterior, forming the firm, spiced bark that creates a textural contrast with the interior; it deposits smoke compounds that penetrate about 1/4 inch into the meat and create a flavor layer distinct from the cured interior; and it renders a portion of the exterior fat, producing a firmer, more concentrated outer bite. Without smoke, the pastrami is tender and flavorful throughout but uniform — every bite is the same moist, cured interior. Many home pastrami recipes skip the smoker and produce a very good product; it is not Katz's pastrami, but it is pastrami in the corned-beef tradition. If you want the smoke flavor without a smoker, add 1 teaspoon of smoked paprika and 1/2 teaspoon of liquid smoke to the rub and roast at 300°F in a covered pan until 200°F internal — it mimics about 40% of the smoke character.

What bread does Katz's actually use and where do I find it?

Katz's uses a dense, seeded Jewish rye — the kind baked in a long loaf with a hard crust, thick enough to hold up under 5 to 6 ounces of hot, steaming pastrami without becoming immediately soggy. The bread is not toasted at the restaurant; it is served at room temperature or slightly warm from proximity to the steam. Marble rye (the swirled light-and-dark loaf) works equally well and is easier to find. What you want to avoid is sandwich bread from the supermarket bread aisle — it is too soft and too light and the pastrami compresses it into a wet, flattened mess. Look for a proper deli rye at a Jewish bakery, a good grocery store's bakery section, or a specialty bread baker. In a pinch, a sourdough boule sliced thick is an acceptable substitute; it has the structure and acidity that sandwich bread lacks.

What is the 'When Harry Met Sally' scene, and is the table still there?

The scene was filmed in 1989 at Katz's Deli at 205 East Houston Street in Manhattan's Lower East Side. Meg Ryan's character Sally Albright famously performs a fake orgasm in a crowded deli to prove a point to Billy Crystal's Harry Burns, prompting a nearby older woman — played by Rob Reiner's mother, Estelle Reiner — to deliver the film's most quoted line: 'I'll have what she's having.' The scene is one of the most well-known in American romantic comedy history. Katz's has marked the exact table with a small sign reading 'Where Harry Met Sally... hope you have what she had!' The table is usually occupied, but you can see the sign from the entrance. The restaurant has been at the same Houston Street address since 1917 and has made no meaningful effort to modernize or capitalize on the scene beyond the sign — the food, the ordering system, and the format have remained essentially unchanged for generations.

How does Katz's compare to other NYC delis and is it worth the price?

Katz's is the most famous Jewish deli in the United States, but it is not the only excellent one in New York City. 2nd Avenue Deli (closed the original, now in two midtown locations) makes pastrami in a similar style; Sarge's Deli on Third Avenue has a loyal following; and Carnegie Deli, before it closed in 2016, was the longtime rival. The contemporary case for Katz's is that it is one of the last delis in New York still making pastrami the traditional way — curing and smoking in-house, without the additives that allow the process to be compressed to 3 to 5 days. The $30+ sandwich is a lot of money for bread and meat. But the amount of pastrami on a Katz's sandwich (roughly 6 ounces) would cost $15 to $20 in quality pastrami at a supermarket deli, and the quality of the Katz's product is not remotely comparable to supermarket pastrami. If you are in New York and have never been, it is worth the trip once. If you are not, the from-scratch home version in this recipe delivers approximately 80% of the result at 15% of the cost.

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